tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31117373.post116240015884509105..comments2024-03-20T05:28:18.440-05:00Comments on Doug Dawgz Blog: Deep Deuce PrologueDoug Dawghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14287287108412180656noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31117373.post-69160275241768895772016-03-03T12:42:53.081-06:002016-03-03T12:42:53.081-06:00My names is Ellen Sheffield-Charles, the daughter ...My names is Ellen Sheffield-Charles, the daughter of Musician, arranger, and band leader. I have been struggling for many years to get the record straight about Charles Christian and my dad's friendship, and musicianship.<br /><br />When Charles Christian got discovered by John Hammond, the booking agent for Benny Goodman, Christian was the guitarist in the Leslie Sheffield (Rhythmaries) Band. I have managed to get my father inducted into the Jazz Hall of Fame in Tulsa, in the Historical Society on NE 23rd street and have written a book about my life as a musician's Daughter. Dad was the arranger for the Ernie Fields band, and played with Count Basie, and Alphonso Trent and his band. I am very proud of my Dad's accomplishments. If it had not been for my dad, a lot of the black musicians of OKC would not have had gigs, and bread to take care of their families. Most of the real jazz musician have passed away, but the memories, still linger on. I am a musician myself, and experienced many of the events during that time, with my dad. You may look on his facebook page for more info.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31117373.post-43459688338871049612011-03-24T19:52:06.803-05:002011-03-24T19:52:06.803-05:00I've commented to civic leaders and the media ...I've commented to civic leaders and the media it would be fitting to restore many of the tribes names for the streets that once existed. I'm also a staunch supporter of removing the name Sheridan from our maps because of the message it sends in regards to Native American relations. They could even just name it Sheraton. But not after an Indian killer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31117373.post-436234780434066062009-01-20T14:47:00.000-06:002009-01-20T14:47:00.000-06:00Whoops, anon! I see after making the above comment...Whoops, anon! I see after making the above comment that you said that your parents were White/Native American, not Black/Native American. My fault for too fast a reading.<BR/><BR/>What you have to offer would be quite a unique contribution ... the child of White/Native American parents living in the Deep Deuce area which was predominately Black. I hope that you will offer more personal information about your personal experiences and those passed along to you by your parents.Doug Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14287287108412180656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31117373.post-32244244276325290812009-01-20T14:39:00.000-06:002009-01-20T14:39:00.000-06:00Thanks, anon, for your thoughtful comments. Althou...Thanks, anon, for your thoughtful comments. Although this Deep Deuce series of posts focuses on the Black community in the Deep Deuce area, I'd not been aware (before your post) of the Black/Native American interracial marriage families living in this same area, particularly in the context of Oklahoma City history. Your comments help to expand the historical knowledge and understanding and I thank you for making them.<BR/><BR/>Most often, abuses to Native Americans are presented in/from a larger venue (e.g., Oklahoma generally, or particular tribes) and are not seen from a particular metropolitan context such as Deep Deuce. Your comments broaden the OKC context and knowlege and doubtless involve another level of racial bigotry, and all such contexts ought to be presented in a complete review of Oklahoma City history.<BR/><BR/>Feel free to offer more, should you wish. These days, interracial marriages are not that big a deal ... my wife is a Native American ... but I know from her as well as from my own research and knowledge about the injustices that Native Americans suffered, also, even though I've not heard from her (she is not from Oklahoma City) about the Oklahoma City context of which you speak.<BR/><BR/>Again, thanks for your appreciated comment.Doug Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14287287108412180656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31117373.post-34154670173274302602009-01-20T10:09:00.000-06:002009-01-20T10:09:00.000-06:00My Aunt lived on the corner of 7th and Stiles in t...My Aunt lived on the corner of 7th and Stiles in the 40's and 50's...No air back then ....We always played at Stiles park and were usually the only White(looking) Kids around...We were always proud of her for not being afraid...she had a gun behind every door...but never had problems....There were ladders to 2nd floor windows(fire escapes)and they were always open due the heat in summer.This was a red brick building on the south east corner <BR/>(7th and Stiles)and she ran a small grocery in the bottom of the bldg.<BR/>I remember going past the Duece every Sunday (on Walnut).It really was a little city all it's own...<BR/>My Family was never taught to hate, due to the fact that we are Bi-Racial Indians...it is also strange that Our Story is never heard ...and sadly probably never will be.<BR/>But I am not ashamed to be of White/Indian ancestory ...<BR/>No one selects their skin color...<BR/>Growing up as a kid in the 50's it was not fun to see the Indian portrayed as the bad guy every night on TV and all the kids playing Cowboys and Indians.<BR/>Especially when your Family had been robbed of all Land and Riches by the white man.<BR/>It would make my GrandPa so mad <BR/>and he would always let us know that the Indians were not losers in each battle as portrayed on TV.<BR/>Alot of times we were refered to as "GUT EATERS ,and alot worse. Seems no one remembers the Indian stuggle to get along here.<BR/>The Black Population of Okla city is not the only Race of people that need an apology.<BR/>We have suffered also.<BR/>We too have feelings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31117373.post-56838211538636850352009-01-19T11:29:00.000-06:002009-01-19T11:29:00.000-06:00Thank you, D'Andra. What kind remarks on this, Mar...Thank you, D'Andra. What kind remarks on this, Martin Luther King, Jr., Day. And what a great day we will all share tomorrow. I'd be proud if I'd be allowed to give you a big hug!Doug Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14287287108412180656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31117373.post-52186230720679996592009-01-19T10:40:00.000-06:002009-01-19T10:40:00.000-06:00Thanks Doug I commend you as being a white man for...Thanks Doug I commend you as being a white man for having a spirit of justice and compassion for something which you have never experienced and could never really understand. As a black woman I appreciate you providing this knowledge as "our" community in this generation has lost its way and the only way we will find it is to know where "we" started. Maybe your article can help some of the blacks in Oklahoma to find their true identity and compel them to do a new thing here in Oklahoma to better "our" community as a whole. <BR/>Sincerely with love and open arms,<BR/>D.DavisAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14739529577915327450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31117373.post-1172224364145125082007-02-23T03:52:00.000-06:002007-02-23T03:52:00.000-06:00Thanks, anon. I'm a "Johnny come lately," too, and...Thanks, anon. I'm a "Johnny come lately," too, and I'm just learing as I go. We've all got much yet to learn, me included to be sure.Doug Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14287287108412180656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31117373.post-1172196603007601502007-02-22T20:10:00.000-06:002007-02-22T20:10:00.000-06:00Great post. I didn't know anything about the hist...Great post. I didn't know anything about the history of Deep Second (Deuce)until reading this. Sadly I guess most of the old Deep 2nd was razed to build the highway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com